Trolls. Not the cute kind.

   So …..  what’s with the trolls on facebook?  Apparently there are people who go looking for posts they disagree with so that they can post hate filled comments on them.  Are these middle school kids with nothing better to do?  Are they mental patients who took over the doctor’s office and got online.  From what I hear, they are actual adults who are doing this.

If a person doesn’t agree with something, wouldn’t they rather focus on what they do agree with?   They could post on their own page about something they like.  Or if there is something they are terribly against, they could think of a solution to the problem and create a page about that.

I actually saw an ad on craigslist for a job position of troll.  Of course they didn’t call it that.  But apparently people actually hire people to do that.  I would love it if I actually thought that most trolls were hired.  Then they would be much less crazy than they seem to be.

I think that trolls are an example of the changing of the world we’re seeing now.  The past included getting for only oneself, insults instead of solutions, and doing what you could get away with.   We as a people don’t want that anymore.  Humanity is evolving.  Some people feel the call of the new way of being.  Some people haven’t gotten out of the old way of thinking yet.  Of course there is chaos as we all move towards what we are evolving into.  And that’s ok.

So ok, for now trolls exist.  Now what I’m not understanding is why people respond to them.  If they were interested in logical thought they wouldn’t be trolling, they would have created a page focused on their ideas for society.

Ignore them.   No response.  No, “thank you for sharing”.  Nothing.  Why are you focusing your attention on a troll when you could have spent that time posting something that would be interesting or beneficial to those who care about what’s happening.

We are winning.  No time to spend on trolls.  We have a country to save.

We’ll Arrest Journalists and We’ll Arrest You Too

I don’t think it’s hard to understand why the authorities are using any little thing as an excuse to shut down the first amendment rights of Occupy movements across the US and why they are arresting journalists now too.

What do you understand by them doing this?  They are showing that they can deny the rights to large groups of people.  They are showing that they can ignore a judge’s orders to reopen the park to OWS.  They are showing that they can close airspace when doing mass arrests.  They are showing you that journalists, who have always been allowed to cover the news because of freedom of the press, can have their rights taken away too.  And taken away in front of the whole world and there is no one who is going to stop them.

They want you to see that and they want you to know what they are showing you.  This way they are hoping that you won’t want to speak out or complain about how things are.  Go back to your life as it is.   You may have lost your job or not have health insurance, but at least you aren’t in jail.  Even more people do have jobs and do have health insurance, but see that things aren’t the way they are supposed to be.  Go back to your life as it is.  At least you aren’t in jail.

The problem for the authorities is that they’ve pushed us too far.  They’ve taken away enough that we can no longer be silent.  We’ll stay non-violent even in the face of their violence.  But we will not hide from their wrong doings.  We’ll keep going back and the more of our rights they take away the more they show themselves as they truly are to the world.

This isn’t the America they taught us about in grade school.

The whole world is watching.

JohnDinca on Taxing the 1%

I recently had the chance to talk to JohnDinca about various issues relating to Occupy Wall Street and the issues raised.  Those of you familiar with his work will know how knowledgable he is in various areas of politics and how this impacts everyday life in the US.  He has been speaking and writing about these ideas for years now.  Finally thanks to the work of OWS we are ready to listen.  I will post the video from that interview in excerpts.  The first one being the effect of taxing the 1% and how this will not impinge on job creation.

Mark Wagner: Occupy Patience

by Mark Wagner

I have to chuckle at the few comments I see coming from the right, the “moderates” (as they like to call themselves) – questioning Occupy Wall Street – variations on “what do they want?” and “who’s in charge?”….

Quarterly business mentality. They want answers “now!”.

Here’s the deal as I see it:

There is huge dissatisfaction in the country. It began manifesting first on the extreme right. Now, with the ineptitude and intransigence in Congress, total government gridlock, greed and inequity – lacking any subtlety whatsoever – absolutely “in our faces” (the 99% of us)… the rest of the country, young and old alike, have begun to stir and stand up. An awakening.

Direction will form, leadership will emerge. It doesn’t happen overnight. It’s a natural event… not a created one, a groundswell… not a quarterly balance sheet to be produced upon a “what do they want” demand. To you asking those questions, be patient on this one, you’ll get your answers… they’re coming.

It’s time to remake America into the great place, with a big heart, that it used to be, when the world loved us and we did what was right, instead of just “profitable”. America, when it was of the people, by the people, and FOR the people… (actual “flesh and blood” people)….

We need to be in for the long haul. Don’t sit and watch. Join.

 

The Wayseers

From “The Wayseers” by Garret LoPorto

“In our repressed and mechanized society, the ‘messiness’ of irrational unconscious impulses is seen as a grave threat.  These impulses betray the controlled social norms.  They force us to look at what is really happening to our souls beneath the cool disinterest we charade around in.

“A great spiritual teacher once taught that the first step towards enlightenment is to admit that ‘your life is in a mess.’  So it is what Wayseers naturally do.  They expose the mess, which is just below the surface of everyone’s social veneer.”

http://www.wayseermanifesto.com/

I Was Just Following Orders: The Excuse of the Other Guy

Looking back in history we might think about certain time periods and wonder how the everyday person in that country or in that situation went along with genocide, other atrocities such as the forced sterilizations in the US that we’ve just heard about in the news or just plain old bad plans.  How did they find so many people to go along with them?  Can the people who followed those orders or just sat back and let those things happen possibly be like your friends and neighbors?  Of course not.  You’ve had conversations with the people you know and they are kind people who look out for others.

And we know that if we were put to the test in a situation like that we would follow our own internal guidance.  It wouldn’t be possible to convince us to hurt others.  We’re just not that kind of person.

A Yale University professor decided to find out exactly how many people would follow along and do the wrong thing.  Professor Stanley Milgram decided to do a study in 1961 to see what percentage of people would follow an authority figure’s directions even when it went against their own internal values.

The short version of the experiment was this:  The Subject was told that a “student” was in another room and would be answering questions via microphone.  The Subject was to give the “student” an electric shock every time a wrong answer was given.  Each shock given would be 15 volts higher than the last.

Before doing the study, Milgram polled some of his students and colleagues at Yale to find out what percentage of people they thought would do as the authority figure told them and deliver what they thought would be the final 450 volt shock.  The average guess was that 1.2% of the Subjects would do so.

During the study, the Subject was given the idea that the “student” was asking them to stop, begging them to stop and banging on the wall.  At some point during the experiment every Subject asked to stop the experiment.  They were then told that they would not be held responsible and that they had to continue.  And so they did.  In the end, 65% of the participants in the study administered every shock up to and including the highest possible.  Because the authority figure told them to.

The following is in his own words from “The Perils of Obedience,” 1971.  “I set up a simple experiment at Yale University to test how much pain an ordinary citizen would inflict on another person simply because he was ordered to by an experimental scientist. Stark authority was pitted against the subjects’ [participants’] strongest moral imperatives against hurting others, and, with the subjects’ [participants’] ears ringing with the screams of the victims, authority won more often than not. The extreme willingness of adults to go to almost any lengths on the command of an authority constitutes the chief finding of the study and the fact most urgently demanding explanation.

“Ordinary people, simply doing their jobs, and without any particular hostility on their part, can become agents in a terrible destructive process. Moreover, even when the destructive effects of their work become patently clear, and they are asked to carry out actions incompatible with fundamental standards of morality, relatively few people have the resources needed to resist authority.”

Stanford professor Philip Zimbardo adds that of the 35% who did stop the experiment, not one went to check out the health of the “victim” without asking permission to leave and do so.

The study has been repeated numerous times by Milgram and by various others – with the same results found in the majority of western countries.

So what about you?  Based on these statistics, you think you wouldn’t do it.  And based on these statistics, you would.

Closet Occupy Supporters

I find it interesting that many people are more willing to tell me they support the Occupy movement via message, phone call, or in person than they are to say something on Facebook.  Why not like the posts they tell me they support, or better yet why not post about Occupy Wall Street themselves?

When Occupy Wall Street first started I was psyched.  As soon as I heard about it I just knew this was important.  It’s about people standing up for others and wanting everyone to be treated fairly.  What a beautiful thing!  It’s time to stop unfair laws and practices.  For so long now we’ve heard things here and there that are completely wrong ways of running a country, but what could we do?  Now with millions of others backing us we can say what’s wrong and be heard.  This is awesome!   Even if we don’t have any of the problems that many do these days, now is our chance to stand up for those who can’t find jobs, were inappropriately foreclosed on, or are drowning in debt.

So why are so many people who I thought were kind and caring people acting like this isn’t even happening?  I’m trying to not be judgmental about this.  I’m trying to understand.  I know that some people have their reasons.  Some are focused on the spiritual and are addressing it from there.  And that’s valid.  That was me before OWS.  Some work in finance or have a spouse who does and maybe that’s their reason.  But some I can’t imagine why they aren’t supporting this.

I know that some mainstream media outlets are making up crazy stories about OWS, but wouldn’t a person want to verify the information before assuming it’s true?  I know that I do that.  If there is an OWS story that I like, but I haven’t seen it elsewhere when it would have been, I find corroboration first before I post it.

But what I’m really asking about right now is not about people who don’t support OWS, but people who do, but not in public.  They don’t post articles about it, they don’t mention it in their Facebook status, the don’t tweet about it, they don’t go to Occupy locations.  But they call me, message me, and tell me in person how important this is, it’s about time, what’s been going on in the country is wrong, etc.

We’re making history here people.  When this is being talked about in 20 years do you want to be able to say that you were part of it?  Or do you want to have to say that you looked on while everyone else changed the world?